Bye the way my battalion commander made 3 Star. Thanks for your service and your support. trailer Can a Soldier flagged for over weight be deployed? endstream endobj 517 0 obj <>/Metadata 9 0 R/Outlines 13 0 R/PageLayout/SinglePage/Pages 514 0 R/StructTreeRoot 18 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 518 0 obj <>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 519 0 obj <>stream Table 3-6: Codes and reasons for submission, page 48 Table 3-7: Reason codes for non-rated time, page 48 Table 3-8: Command codes within NCOERS, page 48 DA PAM 623-3 13 August 2007 iii. Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. zd{l9j(Y*!MJX[geCP,$Bt'Uj k5v rF/T^}(sBG\}qxOd_4ZBtA Reason is that board members question if rating officials were actually rating officials all the way to the end of the rating period. 0 px2iq I-e\,JMFVPz5imc~9pfY}AfEO5xP `e '#I*!m}M.)0p4 !^@ #i`4M!82x2N\X:5dX`d0 " Will this missing NCOER cause a problem with applying for either? Special Reports: for circumstances of outstanding or poor performance as long as there are 30 days accounted for and the report is approved by a field grade officer. everyone involved now is very positive and they are moving it forward I just need to know about the Non rated time and how it relates to retirement. A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. That should also be a change of rater. 2) Change of Rater. I can train. JavaScript is disabled. 2023 AskTOP.net Leader Development for Army Professionals. ;q I should just get out. hSn0@%@ ifs 9Zb[H_e)s#&6B#,Aq77C!z }:r{G.'/}WpvrJXq9/~v|tm[4gE;P=SE.Q7w%>J=ROoX5'j6M_p{v(n8q)Boc8iSPJAbPiVJj(bO L|1S! I cant cry in front t of soldiers. Special Reports: a1. Is it compulsory for a Soldier who is retiring in the next 8 months to have NCOER even though it seems to be hurting the Soldier and he/she does not want any? reason for submission: j. period covered k. rated months .All passing APFT scores are valid until March 2022. m hbbd``b`>$C`201210"g0 These ratings are allowed but the reviewers must nonconcur with one or both of the rating officials and write his/her own assessment in a memorandum that gets attached to the evaluation. > T8 \ p B a = = d(8 X@ " 1  A r i a l 1  A r i a l 1  A r i a l 1  A r i a l 1 . The THRU date will be, 12 rated months (365 rated days) after the arrival or assignment date while performing the same duties under the same, rating officials during this rating period. The next regulation will make these requirements for NCOER slightly more generic but until then the current rules stand. ]"|W~2>6HXg>t].Q\'_[#{>q DAPAM 623-3 is pretty specific with what is required for FAILS or PROFILES in. A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. What can I do as the commander. Amazingly many evaluations arent reviewed for a correct Rated Soldier SSN. Rating officials and rated Soldiers signing more than 14 days prior to the THRU date. Course Hero is not sponsored or endorsed by any college or university. Complete the Record: requested from the Department of the Army. Raters use the DA Form 2166-8 (NCOER) to provide DA with performance and potential assessments of each rated NCO. 616 0 obj <>stream Disclaimer: Though all content posted on AskTOP.net is reviewed by our qualified subject matter experts, you should not make decisions based solely on the information contained in this post. I also have absolutely no experience with a med board and I was in a airborne unit for 17 years. 30 day requirement can be waived under certain circumstances. A soldier's appearance measures part of their professionalism.". kp9\2V ?oHYl6fW^mPrM5eav ]$l(N_4(,4b:u?hvHT6 A{H}@oo8M02- V1%K1JZjV`. Bullets going over 2 lines. Normally, this type of report will be rendered as, the first evaluation for newly assigned Officers and NCOs in an organization. The Complete the Record term is one for evaluations just prior to selection boards. endstream endobj 523 0 obj <>stream Counseling Dates When counseling dates are omitted, the senior rater will enter a statement in section Ve, explaining why counseling was not accomplished example counseling dates were not documented ; DA Pam. FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior rater potential box check (Part VII.d.) Seven Types of NCOERs Initial: prepared for a NCO with 3 rated months after promotion to SGT/E-5. 0000001411 00000 n If they have not been, the rater should make some comment. Change of rater reports have 90 rated days or more AC; 120 rated days or more USAR and ARNG. its not cool. Go to our comment section on the right sidebar. #d/k|0a" 0p5!L.p5D%7 Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). Question/situation: I am going through the Medical board process and I'm almost complete. United States Military Academy NCO NCO E-5 a A mandatory code 10 Extended Annual report will be prepared when any nonrated A a mandatory code 10 extended annual report will be School United States Military Academy Course Title NCO E-5 Type Notes Uploaded By DoctorUniverse2189 Pages 139 Ratings 100% (5) m. no of enclosures n. rated nco's email address (.gov or .mil) from (yyyymmdd) thru (yyyymmdd) part ii - authentication . %PDF-1.6 % That meant either no one checked prior to signature or submission or the PROFILE date was more than 12 months prior to the evaluation THRU date and the form would not let the date be entered. The FROM date on the Extended Annual report would, be the day after the THRU date of the previous completed OER or NCOER. arrival in a new unit or position under a rater, unless another type of mandatory or optional evaluation is warranted (for example, Change of Rater, Change of Duty, Complete the Record, or SROption). &NI?q:\`1vINhCpiWI4zI5nuz^asRF"oqZ@jCobn'A*1~KM;+-Yil}o)+9C9X~v^QDB.q)AGvB @jT/(Cs4>mm#4z9z Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. Change of Duty report a. Thank you for the guidance 1SG! now there is an actual medical NCO in this one unfortunately the commander died in a plan crash so now they finally got a replacement. Hj0~ I commonly will take 28 or 29 just because of processing time through the unit, so I don't have an NCOER with an "E" code. There are 8 Codes and reasons for an NCOER submission, can you name at least 4? endstream endobj startxref My platoon sergeant is now telling me I have to do my NCOER that is due in less than 30 days. That should also be a change of rater. "The rating period does not meet the minimum time requirements for the specified reason for . ~ Correct, but you only receive a nonrated code for leave if it is 30 or more days. Ordnance corp. What type of NCOER am I supposed to receive while awaiting my assignment? date Retirement OERs or NCOERs of less than 1 calendar year are optional. The intent of this type of report is to give a rated Soldier an evaluation similar to an Annual containing 12 rated months after. The standards outlined in AR 670-1 change over time to reflect changing . Your thru date should be the date you sign out. (5) A rated Soldier may also receive an optional Extended Annual OER or NCOER under unique circumstances. When an NCOER is completed on an NCO at a temporary duty/special duty (TDY/SD/TCS), the TDY/SD unit information may be . Use of the electronic form in the Evaluation Entry System to document nonrated periods will calculate the number of rated. I edited my original post to correct the information. A NCOER was never completed for this time frame. 0000001714 00000 n See Also OER Mistakes >Army Counseling Guide. You must log in or register to reply here. The appropriate nonrated, codes (that is, Q for lack of rater qualification, S for school, I for intransit, and so forth) will be used for the nonrated, periods captured on the evaluation. Also, as the regulation stands right now there should be at least 21 months of physical time between FROM and THRU dates to qualify for an extended annual. everyone involved now is very positive and they are moving it forward I just need to know about the Non rated time and how it relates to retirement. Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). AR 623-3 is current. m AskTOP is hosted by CSM Mark Gerecht (US Army Retired) and features guest articles authored by a number of qualified Subject Matter Experts. &8 .53\C)_T LQ0ErlF11Dq.Qa According to the AR and PAM, it looks like I just need the nonrated codes but my HR ncoic is saying there needs to be bullet explaining nonrated time. 365 9 Incorrect SSN for rated Soldiers. We also find that many senior raters say DO NOT PROMOTE but mark a 3 or even 2 in the potential box check. Standard reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, "Change of Rater," or code 04, "Change of Duty," and so forth)will apply on these "Extended" reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. ssn a3. A mandatory code 10, Extended Annual report will be prepared when any nonrated time periods have occurred, since the THRU date of the previous OER or NCOER (for example, prior to the establishment of a new rating, relationship between the rated Soldier and the rater). Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. Also, by signing your NCOER, you agree to the admin part. As for the non-rated codes, that would come from your next unit. Must a Soldier be counseled before separ Must a Soldier be counseled before separation? if I have unrated time does that hurt my retirement. l [Content_Types].xmlN0EH-J@%|$ULTB l,3;rJB+$G]7OV. (NCOER Counseling and Support Form) with DA Form 2166-9-1A (NCO Evaluation Report Support Form), mandated for use by Complete the Record, Annual, Change of Rater, etc.) We. z: g3p: g3KM]vkWPAe}PAe}0`6 f`6 f`6 f`6 f`6>KguccJ_6MoiJ[y,{iFf` U . Here are nine reasons the Army needs to go back to the drawing board with NCO evals: 1. The NCO Corps deserves a lot better. > ( * ' _ Getting ready to PCS, my Rater says my thru date is the report date from my orders. I need out. - Extended Annual reports have 3 or 12-16 months AC; 4 or 12-16 months USAR and ARNG. is FAIR or POOR (do not promote, a 4 or 5). I have renelisted to active duty and have looked into OCS which requires the last 3 NCOERs and WOCS which requires the last 10 years. REASON FOR SUBMISSION n. Bullets. leave, lack of rater qualification, TDY, permissive TDY, and in transit travel). I have been trying to get a med board for a while. 373 0 obj<>stream The only reason why I am going through this is casue of the reserves "aggressive retention policy and the Retention NCO said because since is a result of multiple IED blast that I would be a fool not to take advantage of the combat thing that makes it so you can collect retirement and VA stuff. Course Hero is not sponsored or endorsed by any college or university. l 4 a ( k ( N o L i s t B ^@ B [ N o r m a l ( W e b ) d d [$\$ O [ b o d y PK ! Can't find yours or want to contribute. Hard; Annual reports have 12 months with no nonrated time. "Change of Duty" report a. I have 18.5 years right now and every eval is exceptional. I have no other gaps during my NCO time. the medboard seems to be moving now, I just need to know about the NCOER thing and if the medboard process takes to long can I just get out. It will be followed successively by other types of. 0000001495 00000 n All rights reserved. xTKSQ?v45diE months; nonrated codes are found in DA Pam 6233. Standard reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, "Change of Rater," or code 04, "Change of Duty," and so forth)will apply on these "Extended" reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. When another type of report with an extended period covered is prepared, the standard reason code and reason for, submission will be used (see DA Pam 6233). A key component of the current evaluation system is that rated Soldiers get to actually see and review their evaluation prior to its placement in the OMPF. AR 670-1 prescribes uniform and grooming standards for Army personnel. 611 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<1261714E461053080D48A61750C448C4><2E62CE6C84585345BE61DD794C2F663D>]/Index[606 11]/Info 605 0 R/Length 49/Prev 784385/Root 607 0 R/Size 617/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream reports (for example, Annual, Change of Rater, SROption, Complete the Record, and Relief for Cause).